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breaking news, hurricane igor lashes bermuda. casting a spell, she's already won her state's republican primary. kristen o'donnell now admitting that she dabbled in witchcraft in high school. what she's saying about that. and facebook feud, did mark zuckerberg dream of the facebook idea on his own or did he steal the idea from his harvard classmates. they settled for $65 million,
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now they'll tell us while they think they deserve more. now they'll tell us while they think they deserve more. monday, july 20, 2010. captions paid for by nbc-universal television and good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a monday morning, i'm matt lauer. >> officials in bermuda are saying that they are still trying to assess the damage from hurricane igor. >> hurricane force winds and driving rain has led to extensive power outages. >> it looks pretty this morning. also ahead, former president jimmy carter is in the house and we'll be speaking to him about a number of topics including the rise of the tea party, those two american hikerstill being
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detained in iran and what he seeses a his own place in history. on a different note, there are new problems for lindsay lohan. could the troubled actress be sent back to jail after she admitted that she failed a court ordered drug test. we'll have the latest on that story as well. let's given with the damage caused by hurricane igor in bermuda overnight. jim cantore joins us from elbow beach in bermuda. >> reporter: we're just getting in breaking news, no reports of major injuries or loss of live here on the island, that is great news, however there's lots of debris and trees all over the roads all across the island this morning. some 30,000 customers are report nothing power here. the highest wind gust reported at the airport was 93 miles an hour. and the big question is, what is the word on the airport?
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how did it make it through this storm? what type of shape is the cause way in that leads into the airport? that's the big question this morning. there was a tremendous amount of beach erosion here, 15 to 30 feet of beach lost as a result of one of the largest storms in the atlantic basin history. >> al roker is tracking igor as well. good morning to you. >> good morning, it's 135 miles north of bermuda. winds 75 miles an hour. down to a category 1 storm. moving north/northeast at 17 miles an hour. for us, the big problem is going to be the rip currents. we have got dangerous rip currents stretching from west palm beach all the way to cape cod. yesterday in florida, they had 30 beach rescues just there alone. and it's going to be even worse "today." now the path of igor takes it
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way off, maybe brushing nova scotia, not a bick problem, but we're not out of the woods yet. we are watching a low pressure area that could become a tropical depression and in the next few days could become tropical storm lisa, so we'll continue to track what's going on in the atlantic. > . now to politics, with the midterm elections just six weeks away, most candidates are having to deal with the impact of the pea party. >> the president's trying to help democrats hold on to a vulnerable senate seat in pennsylvania "todatoday campaig and raising money there, while republicans have more turmoil to deal with, one gop incumbent won't accept her defeat in a primary and there's more surprises about that newcomer who's certainly becoming a tempest in the tea party. >> reporter: delaware's republican senate candidate
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christine o'donnell is stirring the pot. >> they call us wacky, they call us wing nuts, we call us, we the people. >> reporter: hours after she was cheered at a gathering for social conservatives in washington, d.c., an old clip of o'donnell hit tv friday, this strange comment from 1999. >> i dabbled in witchcraft, i never joined a coven, but i did. >> reporter: comedian bill maher says unless she comes on his tv show again, he will release more. >> there's a little blood there and stuff like that. >> your first date was a satanic altar? >> and a movie. >> reporter: fighting schedule conflicts, o'donnell backed out on two sunday morning shows. >> late friday night, her campaign canceled. she canceled on us yesterday. >> reporter: instead o'donnell campaigned at a picnic in
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delaware where she made light of the witchcraft talk. >> how many of us didn't hang out with questionable folks in high school. but, no, there's been no witchcraft since, if there was, karl rove would be a supporter now. >> democrats worked their own magic with a new tv ad hitting o'donnell with past tv problems and an old debt with a 2008 campaign. >> she'll fit right in in washington, o'donnell spends money she doesn't have. >> reporter: alaska senator lisa murkowski who lost her primary, just back in the race. she was narrowly defeated by tea party conservative joe miller who was endorsed by sarah palin. >> we will not accept the extremist views of joe miller. >> reporter: murkowski is defying the leadership by conducting a write in campaign that will be tough to win.
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>> if you don't think we can fill in an oval and write in lisa murkowski, we can figure it out. >> reporter: trying to . >> tell them that the time for action is now. >> reporter: when asked about the influence of the tea party, former president bill clinton said that the voters responding to those candidates are showing good impulses because of the feels that are out there this year, but he's not sure what their agenda would be. and christine o'donnell's advisers, when i asked them again about this witchcraft thing reminded me of the kind of fun lines she gave there, that if she was really practicing witchcraft, then karl rove would be one of her supporters and not one of her critics. sarah shourd is back on
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american soil and speaking out about her ordeal in an iranian prison. nbc's ron allen is at the united nations with more on all of this. ron, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, ann, it is no convince dense that sarah shourd is here in new york while world leaders are gattering at the u.n. including iran's president. she's on an emotional crusade pleading for the release of her two companions. >> shane and josh do not deserve to be in prison one day longer than i was. we committed no crime. and we are not spies. >> reporter: her voice sometimes wavered, but not her resolve. as sarah shourd gave the most detailed account yet of the confrontation along the iran-iraq border that led to her, her fiance and her friend to an iranian prison.
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>> i never in my worst nightmares thought i would be a prisoner. i never saw it coming. >> reporter: they said they never saw any sign of a border while hiking in iraq. they got engaged in prison, their engagement ring made of string. fattal, a college friend from uc berkeley was visiting. >> if we were indeed near the iraq border, that border was entirely unmarked and indistinguishable. >> iran accuses the two men of spying and says they must stand trial. >> most cases involve allegations of violating u.s. sanctions against iran, adding another layer of tension to an already strained relationship. bauer and fattal's mother asked to meet iran's president in new york. >> i think the humanity, not just the words, but the
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face-to-face meeting with him will help us explain ourselves and our children. >> when sarah was definitely released, it was a very bittersweet moment for me. the cold hard truth is shane and josh are still in prison and we want them home. >> reporter: shourd recalled the moment she left that prison. >> and i stand before you "today" only one-third free. that was the last thing that josh said to me before i walked through the prison doors. josh and shane felt one-third free at that moment and so did i. >> reporter: she wouldn't talk about conditions in the prison nor about how she was treated. there are reports she spent most of her time in solitary confinement. she was released for humanitarian reasons and health concerns including a lump in her breast. since leaving iran, she says she's been examined by doctors who tell her that in her words, she's doing well. >> ron allen in new york this morning. we are joined now by former president jimmy carter, his new
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book "white house diary." never before seen diary entries he kept while in the white house. i just want to ask you about the story we just had about the two american hikers jailed in iraq. it seems like it might just be up your ally. might you get involved? >> i don't think so, we don't get involved in the united states government and the united nations. we kind of go to strange places where nobody else wants to go. i just got back from north korea getting back a fine young man from boston. he crossed the border from china into north korea and they finally released him. so i hope the other two americans will be released. >> no one's reached out to you on this one. >> no, i don't think they need me. >> what strikes me as much as things change, the more they
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stay the same. you talk about the political climate in this country when you were president, it's similar to what we're facing now, you had to deal with the economy and jobs and health care, and energy. fast forward, president obama dealing with the very same things, have we just not learned very many lessons? have we just not changed enough in these years? >> there were about 40 things that i had to deal with that were troubles in some way, and some of them were the same as what's obama dealing with. the energy crisis, we pretty well make a lot of progress there. i was able to cut down oil imports from 8.5 million barrels a day, by about 50%, but now it's gone back up to about 11 million or 12 million barrels a day. dealing with the middle east peace process, i was able to bring peace to israel and egypt. now we're trying to bring peace
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all these years later. >> one of the things you write about is that there was this dissatisfaction or feeling that people had for their government, there was frustration, and it seems some of the ways that that frustration has shown itself now is the creation of the tea party movement, i don't know whether to call it a movement or a political party. is it a viable party that can last into the future, or is it a passes mood that will end when the economy gets better? >> i think it's going to be a transient thing. but it's going to be very important during the upcoming electi election. you have to remember they came in right after watergate, right after vietnam, right after the assassination of president kennedy and martin luther king. i think that the tea party is influenced, they could be merged with the republican party and i
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would hope by 2012, their big influence is going to be dissipated. >> one of the things president obama would put on one of his greatest accomplishments is health care reform. now here we are six weeks before midterm election and democrats are running in races all across the country and very, very few are talking about that accomplishment of health care reform. why? >> well, i think the republicans have been successful in projecting it in a very negative way. but the main thing i see in health care reform is it brings health care insurance to about 30 million people who didn't have it before and i tried the same thing when i was in office in june of 1979, we had comprehensive health care for about 60 million people who were uninsured to cover all catastrophic health needs and we also had a proposal there that was designed to be increased so
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that the full gamut of health care could go into effect in four years. we didn't success with that. >> all right. >> but i think that's something we need to expand in the future. so total insurance for everybody in our country. >> universal health care? >> universal health care, but it's going to be phased in very slowly now. but the way it was a long confrontation has been used by the opponents to cast it in a negative light which it doesn't dew serving. >> you said this will be the last time for you to talk about your years in the white house. for someone who was born after the jimmy carter presidency whose only experience of your presidency might be what he or she reads in this book. do you think they'll come away thinking your time in the white house was a success or a failure. >> we preserved the peace, we never went to war, we negotiated
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peace between israel and it's foremost challenger, the egyptians. we emphasized human rights. we did a lot of things that were very important, but very controversial. i would say the most controversial one was dealing with the energy crisis. and -- the socialistic -- by the united states into like a five times greater service for the panama canal than when they changed it. so a lot of those things were very controversial. the most important issue we had to face when i was in the white house domestically was the energy crisis. now it's come back to haunt us in a much more severe way. had all my reforms taken effect, we wouldn't be having this problem now. >> as a history lesson in the pages of this book, president
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carter, it's nice to have you here as always. the new book is called "white house diaries." >> let's go over to tamron hall who's at the news desk. thousands of people were forced out of their homes during the night by a wildfire near salt lake city. officials think the fire started during a nearby national guard artillery training session. several officials have now declared the bp well effectively dead, five years after the worst oil spill in u.s. history. area residents are likely to feel the impacts for years. the government says the number of people killed because of distracted drivers fell last year by about 6% from the year before, but the department of transportation still calls distracted driving an epidemic. today president obama focuses on a town hall event. john, the economy is certainly a
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huge topic this election year? >> reporter: absolutely it is, tamron and i think because of the nature of our audience cnbc and the topic of this town hall meeting, about how to fix the economy, this is an important moment in the market. the economy is clearly in better shape than when he took office, but it's not growing rapidly enough, 15 million people are out of work and part of the issue for the president is going to be how do you lift confidence in the economy, part of it is not the economy but psychology. the president here with a couple of hundred people, small business owners, people out of work is going to have a chance to talk very directly and intimately to talk about his plans for changing the economy at a time when many people are losing faith in the economy. >> all right, john, should be very interesting. you can catch that town hall event with president obama
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"today" today at noon eastern time. and big brother, what some are calling the manning bowl, and his brother eli. payton told his younger brother he loved him. and i saw an interview with archie manning who said he didn't set out to raise mvp qua quarterbacks, it just worked out that way. >> mr.
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now to extraordinary wildlife event. biologists thinks the sea mice melted early leaving the animals no other place to rest. lee cowan is in alaska. good morning. >> reporter: we're about 300 miles above the arctic circle this morning and this is where the walrus are gathering, some 20,000 of them at one point over the course of the summer and scientists are saying this is a gathering that is so large and so unusual that scientists are
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now worried about the walrus's safety. it's the end of summer along the north slope of alaska and in the tiny village of point lay, they wait for the ice to return. the tundra is usually already frozen by now. but instead, children are playing in the lagoon bare not. innocently oblivious to what it all may mean. >> scientists tell us that there's global warming going on. >> reporter: do you believe them? >> yeah, i believe them. >> reporter: leo ferrera, the tribal president here is worried that the -- they worry about the most recent resident who is need the ice to survive. the pacific walrus, who normally rest on ice sheets floating out
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at sea. they're unable to find refuge even on a small piece of ice that melted early. >> what this is telling us is a continuing pattern of sea ice los in the arctic, we may be looking at summers with no sea ice at all, or little to speak of in 20 or perhaps 30 years. >> reporter: a new report out this month shows it's the third lowest arctic sea level in over 30 years. walruses need that ice to rest on in between feedings, unlike the polar bear, they can't swim forever. >> they have to commute from a coastal rescue spot out to the foraging grounds, than what it would cost them simply to roll off the ice into the sea directly beneath them. >> reporter: with upwards of 20,000 crammed so tightly together, easily startled mothers can often stampede,
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crushing newborn calves as they hurtle to the water. >> anything can spook them from a polar bear, a dog, a man, a boat going by, an airplane going over. >> reporter: bill tracey is port lay's fire chief. he says more than 100 walruses trampled each other to death. so until the ice comes back, strict limits are now in place. >> this is about as close as we can legally get to the walruses without disturbing them. from this point forward, the only people allowed in are researchers. >> reporter: there's even a no fly zone over the beach, something residents here are happy to see. >> what we have "todatoday, we to protect what's there. >> reporter: a way after life for this village, a way life for a species. >> if all the ice is gone, does that mean all the animals are
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gone too? >> nbc's lee cowan. still ahead, lindsay lohan fails a court ordered drug test.
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>> live, local, late-breaking, this is wbal tv 11 news. >> good morning. i am stan stovall. time for checks on the morning commute. >> everyone is looking at a lot of congestion up there. no major incidents affecting the major roads. 22 miles per hour from white marsh down to the delta. if you will travel on the north side, you are about 30 miles per
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hour over towards the harrisburg expressway, and down to 19 on the outer loop. that is backing up traffic on southbound 75. let's switch over and show you that we have a new accident in whiteford. that is shut down at 165. 21 minutes on your a live west side, 15 minutes on the northeast of blue, nine minutes on the inner loop from 75 -- jfx looks great. it is a very heavy ride on the west side, a live, all volume- related. we will switch to a live and you allen 95. that is your other delay. now here's a check of your forecast with tony pann. >> we had a cold front last night, and temperatures have shifted and will drop off. we are in the low 60s, upper 50s near pennsylvania. we should be able to come to the
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upper 70s this afternoon. it will be partly to mostly sunny, and high in the upper 70s. as we head through the rest of the week, a nice day tomorrow, getting warm -- mid-80s with scattered thunderstorms possible wednesday through friday. >> be sure to check on the bottom of your screen for updated news and traffic information. we're back in the 25 and its with another live update.
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7:30 now on a monday morning, it's the 20th of september, 2010. i think summer officially wraps up tomorrow, ending on a great note here in new york city. we have a sunny, clear morning on the plaza. meanwhile, inside the studio, i'm matt lauer alongside elizabeth curry. will a judge send lindsay lohan back to jail after she fails a drug screening? we have got new details coming up. also ahead this morning, the highly anticipated new movie the
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social network facebook and alleges that mark zuckerberg stole the idea. we'll talk exclusively to twin brothers who say it was actually their idea. let's begin now this half hour with lindsay lohan's failed drug test. . >> reporter: "today" lindsay lohan made the announcement on her twitter page. >> i would expect whatever i get, seriously. >> reporter: sometime soon lindsay lohan will be heading back to court to throw herself at the mercy of a judge who warned that he would not tolerate any substance abuse during her pro base. lohan herself has now admitted that she has failed a court ordered drug test and after
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years of denying that she was addicted to drugs, lohan appeared to come clean saying this is certainly a set back for me but i'm taking responsibility for my actions and i'm prepared to face the consequences. >> the judge in this case recently told lindsay, if you have a failed drug test, you will go to jail for 30 days. a hearing has to be set, so now it's just a waiting game for lindsay to find out what's going to happen. >> reporter: lohan was released from jail last month after violating parole for her conviction in the dui accident back in 2007. as a condition of probation, she had to submit to two random drug tests a week while attending psychothera psychotherapy. i am working hard to overcome it and i'm taking positive steps. in order to gain control of her problem, experts say there are
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definite steps she needs to take. >> getting rid of the friends you used to have or hanging out where you used to do drugs. >> reporter: last week lindsay lohan made a cameo. >> take it from me, they don't. >> reporter: that remains to be seen. if she's sent back to jail, that may affect her ability to star in her upcoming movie. >> the failed drug test definitely is going to send a chill throughout hollywood. for now it puts her career at worst in jeopardy, and at the very least, on hold. >> reporter: lohan also tweeted that she is a work in progress, there is no word yet on when a new court date will be scheduled. >> we have got dr. julie
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holland. what do you read, dr. holland from this tweet of lindsay taking responsibility and being prepared for the consequences. >> a couple of interesting things, this is the fourth time we have talked to lindsay, and i am seeing something new, she is taking responsibility, it was always the cat ate my home work and those weren't my pant and those weren't my drugs. i'm surprised that she understands -- maybe she's embracing more of a harm reduction model which is the idea that it's going to take a bunch of different steps and there's going to be relapses and remissions. >> what consequences does she face as she tries to turn around this very big ship? >> she actually faces very big consequences, both legal consequences and career and image consequences. first of all, she's got to go before the judge this week who sentenced her to jail and who has -- and who set very strict probation standards for her. now she -- this judge can
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actually send her back to jail for much more than 30 days. he can decide to do whatever he wants to do, whatever he thinks is appropriate, and he can send her back to rehab and he can keep her tied up in probation for an extended period of time which is going to make it very hard for her to restart her career. >> and she looked so good at the mtv music awards, we actually hoped she would be in the process of turning it all around. what prevents this young woman from getting it together. >> it's hard to get and stay sober for anybody and one of the things that gets in the way is denial, thinking you don't have a problem. but she's surrounded by people who say yes to her, offer her drugs, want to party with her. she really needs to change her lifestyle quite a bit. >> are we part of the problem, the media, focusing on the problem, getting her this kind of attention we have doing.
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>> i do think she's fame addicted. but i don't think we can blame ourselves and i think her tweet was part of her fame addiction, she wants the world to know everything about her and she is addicted to the lifestyle of partying, even though she's saying she wants to change and she has said that before, she has said that she's gotten the message, she's changing her life. she has been out many nights at a place where she's partied before and gotten into trouble before. she went right back there right after being released from rehab. >> i think a lot of us would like to see her get back and doing good movies. thank you so much. we're going to get another check of the weather from al. >> "today's" weather is brought to you by chevy. every model is backed by a 100,000 mile/5-year powertrain warranty.
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>> for our friends in southern texas, it's been a rough 48 hours. corpus christi getting almost 10 inches. look on the radar, i think we have got some video of corpus christi, texas where we have got some flooding go og there, but we don't. in the next 48 hours, we're looking at more heavy rain. there it is, a lot of folks getting rescued by boats out of their homes, cars getting stuck in high water, a lot of flooding there. these folks, please, you see high water, turn around, don't drown, that is a dangerous, dangerous thing to do. and over the next 48 hours, they're looking for another one to two inches of rain in corpus christi. gorgeous weather along the east coast, however we do have rip currents to talk about because of igor, plenty of sunshine throughout the southwest and a slight risk of strong
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>> good morning, everyone. i m tony pann -- is turning out to be a nice day with some sunshine and a few clouds, and the breeze will pick up a little this afternoon. >> and we have got a 16th birthday. what is your name. >> sarah lindsay. >> and don't forget, you can get your weather any time of the day or night. >> coming up, we're going to talk to twin brothers who said facebook was their idea. this was my first time to use it.
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we're back now at 7:42 with the controversy surrounding the social network, it's hollywood's take on the creation of facebook. mara has details on this. >> when he created facebook, 26-year-old mark zuckerberg made his fair share of enemies. he's accused of stealing the idea for the website, an allege that will now play out on the big screen. >> your best friend is suing you for $600 million. >> i didn't know that, tell me more. >> reporter: the social network, hollywood's take on the web's biggest drama.
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>> they got 2,800 hits within two hours? >> reporter: it's about how facebook was founded in 2004 by harvard university graduate zuckerberg. he was a computer geek who stole the idea from his friend. the alleged ed betrayal -- worn estimated $4 billion by 25. but it doesn't come without a cost. zuckerberg's former classmates, identical twins tyler and cameron winklevoss sued him in 2004. zuckerberg decided to steal their ideas and the business plan and to launch his own website. >> wait a second, isn't this the exact project that we were
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working on and isn't the exact person that we were working on it with. >> the twins now getting mbas in england, settled the case for $65 million, part of it in facebook stock. now they want it vacated. >> they believe they effectively created facebook, which is worth a lot more than that. >> reporter: facebook tells nbc news we have considered the winklevoss suit closed for years and we wish them well in their future endeavors. >> they're saying we stole facebook, did we? >> reporter: still it's the latest in an onslaught of pr. the movie facebook doesn't want you to see. last year there was a public outcry when the site changed it's privacy settings.
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he allegedly mocked his users for submitting personal information saying, quote, they trust me and then calling them dumb. >> mark zuckerberg is absolutely known to be aloof and arrogant and avoids big public social situations and keeps to himself, he's pretty awkward. >> reporter: the man described as socially awkward is "today's" king of social media. facebook has 500 million users, one of every 14 users in the world. so far the bad press hasn't kept users from the site which means this social net work probably won't keep people from this one. zuckerberg on face bock did not cooperate with the making ots movie. in a recent interview, zuckerberg says he does not plan to see it. >> cameron and tyler winklevoss are with us now. before we get to the nuts and
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bolts of this, have you had an advanced screening of this movie? have you seen any of it? >> we have not seen it aside from the trailers that were on the internet. >> have you read the script? >> i have read the script. >> did you contribute information and materials to the making of this movie. >> no, but we actually met with the actors after the filming and the little bit that we know is that they say we'll be happy with it. >> so when zuckerberg's people say it's fiction, you say it's in fact the truth? >> it's probably closer to the truth than they would like to believe. but we won't know until we see it. >> let me try and nail you down on this settlement. the settlement was reached in 2004. $65 million, are we in the right ballpark here. >> we can't comment directly. it's publicly -- >> it's been reported. >> it's batted around publicly. so -- >> so it's close?
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>> we can't really talk about it. >> there's going to be people right now who say you want to open this again, you say that's not enough, we didn't understand the value of this company and there are people who say, you signed a deal. they offered you a contract, nobody put a gun to your head back in 2008 to take whatever, how ever many millions of dollars, why do these guys deserve a second viewing? >> there's actually two elements of bwhy we're challenging the agreement, and first of all the spirit of the agreement has not been upheld by their side, with respect to part of the settlement been the ek quit by. they misled us. >> you had some smart lawyers at the time, they had the rug pulled over their eyes? >> it's a situation where facebook has all the information on their valuation and how they value their company and unless they provide that to us, which we believe they're obligated to,
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it's impossible to really tell what the value is other than what they represent. >> and what's the second element? you said there's two. >> the second element is that they sat on and hid elements of mark's electronic messages, and now it's going to be six years. so the information that we should have had when we entered into a mediation, such as his conversations to his friends that showed deliberate premeditation and sandbags that we didn't have at the time. >> mark zuckerberg is not without his critics, but you guys have your critics as well. they said your site was not more than a dating service and others say much of what you proposed was already out there and that you were lucky to get the $65 millionor whatever it was. how do you respond to that. >> what we had at harvard when we approached mark zuckerberg, it was a project that was well
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on its way to completion. it was identical to how facebook operate s today. that argument has mainly been advanced by facebook for obvious reasons. >> mark zuckerberg, i'll give you three terms, business whiz, genius, evil genius? which is more accurate. >> evil is a pretty strong word. >> i think a guy who was a team member and partner with us who did not want to play as a team member and took an idea and has run with it and sort of -- >> confident that you'll succeed in this latest effort? >> we're going to keep at it. we're certainly not going to back down, we'll do our best, for sure. >> tyler and cameron winklevoss, thank you for coming in. still ahead, has the
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>> live, local, late-breaking, this is wbal tv 11 news. >> good morning. it is time for another check on the morning commute. here is traffic pulse 11. >> the new accident is reported on the west side. here is a live view of conditions -- barely moving. the accident is in the out to look at i-70. we will let you know once we find out more in terms of lane closures. here is a live view on 295, just south of the beltway. the traffic is petite stacked it out to west and her shriek road.
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-- it is pretty stacked. here is 136 shutdown at 165. the delays from 95 down to white marsh. looking heavy in the upper lip, 26 miles per hour. 11 miles per hour through the west side stretch getting down to the accident scene. one more accident at both hundred and halter road. that is the latest on traffic pulse 11. >> good morning. we had a cold front last night producing a few sprinkles in some neighborhoods. things are quiet now. the temperatures are in the upper 50s in the northern suburbs near pennsylvania, mid- 60s elsewhere. 65 at the airport. mostly sunny sky, a little on the breezy side. high temperatures expected in the upper 70s. your seven-day forecast, after a chilly start on tuesday, a mild afternoon with a high near 80,
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warm in the mid-80s there the end of the week with scattered thunderstorms wednesday through friday. >> we are back in 25 minutes with our next live update.
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we're back now, 8:00 on a monday morning, it's the 20th day of september, 2010. we have got some people swaying because we're playing the song "misery" and that's our way of reminding you that tomorrow right here on "today," an indoor concert, great music and we encourage everybody to come on down as we do every day. i'm matt lauer, along with ann curry. mr. roker returning back from two days off. >> thank you. >> did you have a good time? >> i had a fantastic time. coming up, we'll have more information on a tragic story that occurred just friday night.
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>> can you believe this? it was a star quarterback. he had just thrown a touchdown when he collapsed right after that. and we'll be talking live with the young man's mother. on a much, much lighter note, some people are questioning whether the traditional role, or male role of masculinity, macho role is endangered? is it going to be a thing of the past? some say the economy may be playing a role in that, we're going to explore that in just a couple of minutes. >> i'm not sure i'm sad about that. are you sad about that? >> i never did have a macho side. >> i'm a lumberjack and i'm okay. >> all right, lots to get to, but before we go forward, we have tamron hall at the news desk. hurricane igor is heading
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nor north today after thrashing bermuda overnight. most of the island lost electricity during the storm. the airport was shut down and beach erosion is severe. strong winds and rainfall continue today, but there were no reports of any major damage. hurricane karl dumped more than nine inches of rain over the weekend. flood watches are still in effect and classes were canceled today at many corpus christi schools. at least two houses were destroyed and 1,400 others evacuated because of a wildfire in salt lake city. the american hiker released from an iranian prison last week is now on american shores. she said they had no idea they had crossed into iran when they were arrested 14 months ago. she says they were not spies and
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did not commit any crime. a spokesman for afghanistan's president says it's too early to judge the quality of weekend parliamentary elections, despite low turnout, taliban attacks and widespread complaints of fraud. preliminary turnouts are in effect for the next few days. the world's tallest man met the world's smallest woman on sunday. both are from turkey, both are in their 20s, but she's just 2'4" and he is 8'3" and still growing. now let's get another check of the weather from al. hey, al. >> hey, thank you so much tamron and it's a birthday girl. what's your name? >> tammy. >> whatere are you from. >> baltimore, maryland. >> let's check your weather and see what's happening,
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cincinnati, ohio, nbc 5, like my chilly three way. got a lot of heavy rain in southern texas. sunny and hot in the northwest. high surf advisories from new england all the way down into florida due to igor and plenty of sunshine up and down the east coast. chilly in cleveland. 69 degrees today, hot in atlanta, 93. >> good morning, everyone. i a.m. tony pann -- no problems expected for the morning commute. heading into the afternoon, it will be breezy and mild was
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star quarterback collapsed on the field and died on friday night. we're going to talk to his mother and head coach in just a moment. but first, here's nbc's kerry sanders. >> near beaumont, texas a community in disbelief. tragedy hit the playing field without warning. high school quarterback reggie garrett had just tossed a 13-yard touchdown pass, he celebrated with his teammates and as they headed to the sidelines, reggie collapsed. he never regained consciousness. >> the crowd, our kids, our coaching staff, our community, i think the other team as well, everybody was pretty much in shock. >> reggie was rushed to the hospital, his teammates were told in the last minute of the game, he passed away. friends and family were in shock. >> i loved him, everywhere he went, i was there too. >> coaches say reggie had a seizure when he was three years old. the result of a very high fever.
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something doctors tell the family is not uncommon. paramedics at the scene say they believe reggie had a massive seizure he could not overcome. in much of the country, including texas, screening policies for student athletes differ region to region. in this case, coaches say reggie had a check up with his own doctor in july and it showed no abnormalities. in oregon last weekend, a similar tragic story on the football field. but this one with a happier ending. haywa hayward -- one of the stars of the catholic high's football teams. he ran the ball 45 yards, scoring a key touchdown. >> it was the game winner. >> reporter: but moments after the play, he collapsed on the field. his heart stopped for about two
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minutes, cardiac nurse leisa liber rushed from the stands and started administers cpr. >> it didn't look like he was breathing, and a couple of people tried to feel for a pums and we didn't feel one. >> liber saved his life. he was later diagnosed with a defective cerebral artery. >> i want to get back into football. >> reporter: like so many americans, hayward loves football. but the coincidence of these two events has many asking if there are enough precautions for high school athletes. for "today," kerry sanders, nbc news. >> reggie garrett's mother, joanne parkinson and his football coach are both joining us this morning, good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> joanne, it's only been since last friday that you lost reggie
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and i'm wondering what you want to say this morning about what happened to your boy? >> really -- i really don't know what to say or what happened but i was here at the football game and was en route to the restroom when i was flagged by his cousin brandon ricard saying that it's reggie, i could read his lips en route to the restroom and the first thing i could do was just get to the field to see. and when i got to the field, he was already out. >> such a beautiful and talented young man. and besides this one seizure when he was 3 years old as a result of this very high fever, was there any other indication of any kind of physical issue that might have put his life in jeopardy, joanne? >> no. no.
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he had a physical last year in port arthur with his doctor here in orange, no signs of any health condition whatsoever. >> coach, what do you want to say about that? do you see any indication in reggie of any signs of illness at all? >> he was top in physical condition, he never showed any signs of a health problem, it was just out of the blue. it shocked everybody. >> was there anything that happened on this friday night that happened on other friday nights, coach? >> he was smiling and ran off the field and i was trying to get the special teams out there and i looked around and he was having problems on the sideline. >> joanne, he was celebrated just before he passed. >> yes. >> does that give you -- >> just so proud of him.
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just so proud of him of what he accomplished. >> he's the kind of kid that you couldn't say anything bad about and that's rare because he was super. >> thank you so much, and our deepest condolences, i'm sure many people watching. let's bring in dr. nancy snyderman. >> no indication from either the coach or the mother. can this fever at 3 years old the seizure because of high fever at 3 years old be an indicator. probably not. this seizure could have followed any little virus, getting a baby shot, and sometimes when babies have high fevers they get seizures and they're not indicative of anything down the
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line. the real question will be with the autopsy, to look at the heart, whether there might have been a blood clot or a heart attack. sometimes you can have a seizure and there's nothing -- or you can have the electrical conduction, the heart sends out a long message and so there's nothing to be seen. so sometimes an autopsy still leaves linger questions and doesn't answer as many questions as people would like. >> is there any test, is there any way for parents to know ahead of time or is it true that the kind of test that we have available "todatoday of a youngt or a young brain is just not adequate? >> big cases like this will cost people, they'll say i want kids screened for anything. the problem is screening a heart at rest with an ekg, isn't the same thing as screening a body
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at exertion so i don't believe that massive screening other than being honest about your family history, being honest about illicit drug use, being honest about any symptoms you might have had, you think oh, my gosh, maybe the coach won't let me on the team, if you have been feeling feint, if your heart has been beating funny, those are the things you need to talk about. otherwise the routine check in the summer should be enough to find out which kids play and which kids don't. this is tragic, but they're not necessarily related issues. >> we'll be right back after these messages. ♪ ♪ come on, people, now ♪ smile on your brother ♪ everybody get together ♪ try to love one another right now ♪ [ female announcer ] the time has come to get a diaper that really works, without the really high prices. the time has come for luvs. say yes to ultra leak protection,
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this month's "newsweek" magazine. folks, good morning to all of you. >> good morning. >> who wants to give me the headline here? because i don't know whether i should be bummed out as a guy or is it much adieu about nothing. >> the story is not about men becoming more like women, guys can still be guys, they can dress like guys, they can do what guys do, but there are changes forces in the economy and at home and they need to expand their definition of masculinity. >> so we can no longer have simplistic views about what a man's job is and men's role is. men have to expand their horizons and be a little bit more open minded. >> the economy is going to add 15 million new jobs over the next ten years, it may not seem like it right now. >> where are they come ing. they're field that
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traditionally employ a lot of women. home health aid, customer service representative. >> so you're asking people to at least consider a new definition for the word macho. >> we want to define masculinity in terms of usefulness. men can dress however they want and act however they want. but what they do with their hours, how to contribute to the home and how to contribute at work. the home is a natural place to start this shift. and we make recommendations in the piece, one great example is paternity leave for men. >> getting out there and taking paternity leave? >> one of the paradoxes we discovered in researching this piece is although most american homes are dual income, women continue to do four times the child care, even when mom and. >> i think that now we're looking at the fruits i think of
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the '60s when the women's liberation movement was we want equal everything. it looked like equal money and we have gotten equal money in many instances, this is showing that maybe it's on the ride. but the-quality i think was desired that. a guy who's willing to adapt and do anything he can to support and contribute to his family. that's macho. >> what's more masculine, a guy who is unemployed and a deadbeat dad who's still strong and silent or a guy who's doing everything he can to be a good dad. >> who would come to mind? who's the new macho guy? >> part of the problem is there
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aren't good examples in the u.s. >> david cameron is in new macho. he just took off two weeks to bond with his newborn daughter. >> he co-parents, he co-bread wins with angelina, with a nanny's help. >> it's when you don't have a nanny and you really have to pitch in, then what happens? we want to see the definition of manly, let's hope that men embrace it. >> thank you to all of you, we're back after your local news.
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>> live, local, late-breaking, this is wbal tv 11 news in baltimore today. >> good morning. i am minday basara. let's get a final check on traffic. >> dealing with several problems, an accident on south of 95 from the northeast just prior to the beltway, off to the shoulder. it is only 4 miles per hour on average from the stretch from white marsh down to the split. we have heavy traffic on the west side, out to live, due to an accident approaching i-70. and may still be blocking the
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lanes, 10 miles per hour on average from 140 down towards edmundston. at standard and halter was an accident, and another problem in whiteford. pair is a live look at traffic. here's the pace and the west side because of the accident. here is a live look on i-95. >> good morning. mid-mostly sunny skies. highest in the upper 70s. your seven-they start, temperatures and the low to mid
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80s toward the end of the week. scattered thunderstorms possible in the afternoons. >> we will have another update at 8:55 a.m. at 8:55 a.m. why is roman meal bread nutritious? two slices provide at least sixteen grams of whole grains and an excellent source of calcium. roman meal bread: great taste and nutrition since nineteen-twelve.
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it's 8:30 now on a monday morning, it's the 20th day of september 2010. it's a magnificent day here in the northeast. although there's some wind in the air, moving around pretty good. 51 degrees. might feel a little colder than that. >> i think we need a group hug.
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>> matt lauer is filling in for meredith, al roker is here and tamron hall. >> let me know when to stop. >> we're going to talk to the author of a book that's being hailed as the first inside look at the workings of the obama administration. it's written by a guy who used to be president obama's car czar. we're going to find out much more about and talk to the author in just a couple of weeks. and a sure sign that fall is arriving, which by the way comes on september 21 at 11:09 a.m. and one of our chefs is going to be here, he's going to be sharing a savory recipe for baked apples. >> he always makes food fun. >> watch your fingers there. also coming up, we're going to meet jason leonard.
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he's an incredibly talented actor. he's going to be in this new show on nbc called the event. so he's very excited. we'll talk to him coming up. another big debut on nbc tonight. it's "chase." starring kelly mcginnis. >> thank you very much, nice to see all of you all. >> every promo i see, you're kirking someone's butt. you've got someone in a head lock, you're taking someone down. >> i'm so proud, i wear my badges of honor. it's great getting up in the morning knowing you're going to be on the roof of a semigoing 60-mile-per-hour and the cameraman is in a helicopter. what other things can you do? >> your job is a u.s. marshall? >> yes, these are such good men
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and women, catching the bad guys so all of us can lay our heads on the pillow at night. >> if only i had a little more stimulating. >> now you're from georgia, and it's usually pretty darn hot. >> it's so nice not to be on the sound stage in new york or in l.a. and to be able to run and we showed the set and it's just a big texas sky. >> aim parable to texas. i'm from there. >> are you? >> how surreal is this for you? >> all those production values right there. next year's softball team.
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>> congratulations. "the chase" appears tonight on nbc. >> mr. roker, how about a check of the weather? >> let's see what's going on, first of all, as far as "todato concerned, wet weather in the pacific northwest. heavy rain for corpus christi, texas. another one to two inches of rain. tomorrow showers taper off. we have wet weather in the mississippi river valley. mild out west, and also in new england, warm conditions here in the mid-atlantic states >> good morning, everyone. i m tony pann -- is turning out to be a nice day with some sunshine and a few clouds, and the breeze will pick up a little
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>> just getting warmed up. >> warm is what we need. >> don't forget, check your weather any time of the day or night, or online. in case you didn't know. coming up, we'll be talking about the first inside look at the obama administration. but first, this is "today" on nbc. old gibbs canning company.
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the most rigorous restructures in history. in the new book "overhaul" an insiders account -- out of breath here, of the obama administration's emergency rescue of the auto industry. stephen, good morning, i apologize, i was running. >> running is good for you. >> running in and out. why did you write this book? >> because i thought this was an enormous accomplishment by the obama administration. a singular accomplishment for which there was a beginning, a middle and almost an end and i thought the country deserved to understand. >> you're a guy who does not need the money, you do not need the attention, you don't need trouble and you know that you have talked about some of the things in this book that are going to capture some headlines and as a smart guy, you knew those would capture attention. did you think about it? >> i thought people would take a look at the book in its
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entirety. it was not some effort to telltales or talk out of school. >> but you do include some anecdotes of some interactions that you had with some key members of the administration. rahm emanuel denies some of the things that you say he said in the book, but one thing in particular you talk about buy it was important to bail out gm is that there were thousands of union jobs. and you say he said blank the uas. when you were surprised that this would make headlines, that's the title of that chapter. you don't use the word black, but the title of that chapter wasuas. >> what rahm was really saying is that there was not going to be any political cows. >> and i have heard you describe this after the controversy, you said that's not the context that
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i describe in the book. however when you call a chapter, blank the uauas. >> what do you think was the greatest lesson learned from this entire chapter in our history of diving in and saving these companies? and first of all, is it a finished story? do we know the full result even though we think these companies are back on track. >> there's two questions actually, we don't know the finished result, we think the companies are back on track. general motors has had two quarters of positive income. both companies are ahead of plan. but the broader lesson to take away from this is that i'm as recalcitrant as anybody about big government in the private sector. this is a capitalist country, it
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should be run that way, but markets fail to perform and in 2009 the markets failed to perform. >> you worked closely with larry sumner and tim any geithner, those who are trying to figure out how to run this economy. we were talking about what happens within a presidency and oftentimes it's not the expected that defines a presidency, it's the unexpected. things like the bp oil spill and the economy and the job loss that nobody saw coming. does president obama in your opinion have the two right people in those positions to lead us out of this? >> i believe that 100%. i have known larry summers for 15 years, i have known tim geithner almost as long, these are battle hardened, experienced guys. i could not imagine the president taking these tasks on without those two guys and those jobs.
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in the book you allude to your own problems. a guy named hank morris who's been indicted for accepting million dollar payments to do business with new york state pension funds, you say, quote, nothing in my entire professional life have been as painful as that episode. you left your job as the car czar after six months. did you leave because the job was done or because of pressure within the administration over an investigation surrounding you. >> the job was effectively done, we had turned these over to the private sector, we said they're your companies, you guys go run it. between that and my workload dropping off and it would have been hard under those circumstances to take another high profile job within the administration, it seemed like the right time to take a break. >> and the status surrounding you right now is what as you understand it? >> unresolved. >> and for the foreseeable future? >> i hope so, but i cannot predict. >> the book is called "overhaul"
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it comes out "today."
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made $2.5 million... working for a lobbying firm. $2.5 million? he's not really on my side. with this tough economy, we really need a governor on our side. back now at 8:45, with a mysterious global conspiracy. the event, a new series premiers tonight on nbc. and let's just say everything isn't always as it seems. >> it's not too late, but we have to act now. >> open the door! >> i'm an air marshal, i'm not going to ask twice, do it now!
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>> jason, good morning. >> that's what it looks like, but you have to watch the whole episode. >> your character's name is shaun walker. >> when you say you have got to watch the whole episode, you don't even know -- do you know what the event is? >> i don't know what the actual event is. the writers know what it is, and some of the actors foe what it is. but we were all given these little character dossiers that show what our characters know and we weren't allowed to share them with the other actors. >> what's it like to not know what the other characters know? >> the writer had been creating this story for the last four years. i knew that he had the entire back story in his mind. so as long as i know that someone has the plan, i'm going
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to follow along. >> but you know that you're the star, at least for the first episode. >> yes, exactly. >> and so as you're going in this role then, as it's unfolding for you, is that frustrating? is it exciting? how does that affect your work? >> it's really exciting. i mean, you know, i think generally, we go through life not knowing what's around the next corner and certainly it's a lot of fun in a show like this, where there's a conspiracy and you don't know who to trust. but it's nice to do a scene with an actor and not know if he's going to be a bad guy in a scene down the road. >> in all reports, you are fantastic, because we obviously are going to be seeing? premier coming up. a lot of us love your dad. >> oh, thank you. >> and i'm wondering if your dad had a big influence on your decision to become an actor. >> yeah, i mean both my parents did, they both were actors and,
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you know, just being around it and seeing how much fun they had and also knowing how much work goes into it, it seems like something that i wanted to try my hand at. >> well, john ritter, i'm he would be very proud of you. you have been working on this show since may, you haven't seen it all come together, i'm guessing. >> i haven't seen it all. >> but there's a big premier tonight, are you butterflies? how are you going to see this thing. >> tonight all the cast is going to the show and we're all going to watch it and keep our fingers crossed. >> get some popcorn or something. >> how do you know when things are good or bad? what do you wait for? do you go to sleep? what happens. >> you go to sleep and then wait, i guess tomorrow morning i'll wait for somebody to tell me good or bad news. >> already we have been hearing the "new york times" calls it
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nbc's highest new card, the most valuable. because of the reactions so far at least with international research audiences. the stuff that those networks do. it's very exciting. >> that is very exciting. that is a good sign that people seem really excited about the show and are ready to give another show like this a chance and follow along with the ride. >> jason, pleasure. >> you too. >> cute a button. anyway you can catch the series premiere tonight at 9:00, 8:00 central here on nbc.
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? this morning on "today's" kitchen, baked apples. he's the chef of minibar in washington, d.c. and by the way will be teaching part of the science and cooking class at harvard university this fall. professor, good morning, nice to see you. >> no professor. >> that's impressive. good to see you. we're going to do some apple dishes here, when you're eating an apple versus cooking an apple. do you like a different variety? >> the ones that my voters love.
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>> do they all cook well or some better than others? >> when they are very sour and they're hard, they're going to be very firm, even if you cook them for a long time. when they're sweeter, they have more sugar, the apples they are going to break. so you're the one that chooses which one you want. >> we're cooking stuffed baked apples. you start with bread, right. >> here we are all bread crumbs. you don't want to throw them in the garbage, you mix them with some milk. you put it right here with the meat. >> so this is just ground beef. >> ground beef, ground chicken, use your favorite ground meet. and some pork. we put some parsley, we put some onions, we put some garlic, some
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cinnamon, some salt. you make that whole thing very well. and then you start coring the apples. >> you don't core it all the way through, because you don't want it to come apart at the bottom, right? >> you know your recipe. so you make like, you know, you can do this with a holer, you make the hole in the top, eyou use the baller, you make a big hole. >> and you don't peel these and zblls don't peel it? buy because if you pedon't peel it, it prevents the apple from becoming dry. >> don't you also put a little lemon on the outside of them? is that so they don't brown? >> what happens is i'm so quick, that they don't even have time to brown. but the recipe also will tell you -- >> you have a different recipe here?
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>> put some less than mon on so they don't become brown. >> pop them in the oven. >> for how long? for as long as you think the apples are ready. 30, 40 minutes, 350 degrees. >> you want the meat to be brown, you want the apple to be kind of soft. >> the meet is going to be perfect. >> it's kind of like a meat loaf in an apple. >> how do you garnish this. >> you put some fresh thyme. >> spinach, i put this right before we began, and now they are beautiful and brown. you see this one? >> you smell the smell. >> you cannot see the smell. the smell is good. you're going to be able to see it. you see this is smelling good.
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you're smelling this delicious sweet flavor. >> you put some pineapple. you put some raisins, you do all the work. >> they don't understand. >> we love your english. >> here you have the beautiful spinach. >> tell us quickly, what's that dish on the end? >> some apples, sliced, a great olive oil from spain. blue cheese, you put some almonds on top and you have an unbelievable apple salad. >> professor jose andres.
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>> good morning. we are off to a nice, quiet start. it will be a nice afternoon. a little bit breezy after the cold front last night. mostly sunny, the high expected in the upper 70s, possibly near 80 in some of the warmer suburbs. it will give chile tonight, dropping to the 40's and 50's, but warm up quickly on tuesday to near 80 degrees. it will be in the mid-80s wednesday through friday with scattered thunderstorms in the afternoon each of those days. >> thanks for joining us. >> thanks for joining us. we will have a weather update
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